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salnts
01-05-2010, 02:39 PM
It has been a long time since i wrote such a lengthy post. Nevertheless, Happy Labour Day!! I'll soon be part of the force as i graduate in a couple days time after my last paper. While i look forward to more outing since i havent join you all for the longest, i am glad our tiny community has grew over the years.

Well, today i would like to discuss on artificial lighting. Yes, FLASH

I know we all hate using artificial light. however, one cannot deny if one has to use it he must( eg: weddings, events)

How do you guys do up your settings? I have no idea but mine through trial and error i have came up with this few settings. Hopefully our Masters KopiOkaya and Bluffname and Excelgis who are veteran with there s5pro and photography can guide me


#1 indoors low ceiling

S5pro
Matrix Metering
Manual Mode fix settings at 1/80 f5.6
ISO 800-1600 depending

Flash Auto at 60 degrees with no bounce card



#2 indoors high ceiling

S5pro
matrix Metering
Manual Mode fix settings at 1/80 f5.6
ISO 800-1600 depending

Flash Auto at 45 degrees with no bounce card or 60 degrees with a bounce card

* comments i hate to use high iso above 800 and will spot metering be more effective when using flash?

Say if you were to use Aperture Mode, sometimes i prefer to set my ISO indoors at 500/640 and i get super low shutter speeds like 1/20 at f4


Am i doing the right thing with manual exposure fix and just wack or how should i go about it? Also say if i am using a long lens do you use direct flash to reach your subject?

we have always been talking about camera settings, maybe we can discuss about the usage on flash on our s5pro. I believe it will help many bros/uncles here too when shooting events. Why is it alot people use a diffuser with the flash when it ITTL mode? wouldn't the flash get tricked into producing even more power?

Hope to learn more about how to handle such situations also to make photos with flash look tooo flat.

Here are some i have experiment done a few months some a year ago. But i am still not able to achieve how i want it to look. i believe the key to photography is controlling lights and maybe i reach GGM standards or with KopiOkaya's knowledge level some day.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4009/4567497146_5f29763cae.jpg
Exposure: 0.008 sec (1/125)
Aperture: f/8.0
Focal Length: 17 mm
ISO Speed: 640
Exposure Bias: 0 EV
Flash: On, Fired
Exposure Program: Manual
Metering Mode: Center-weighted average

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2755/4428998389_371bf52589.jpg
Exposure: 0.013 sec (1/80)
Aperture: f/3.5
Focal Length: 17 mm
ISO Speed: 800
Exposure Bias: 0 EV
Flash: On, Fired
Exposure Program: Manual
Metering Mode: Multi-segment

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2747/4372064505_405bf58cd2.jpg
Done with Manual on both remote flash and on camera
Exposure: 0.013 sec (1/80)
Aperture: f/3.2
Focal Length: 27 mm
Exposure Bias: 0 EV
ISO Speed: 125
Exposure Program: Manual



The wise words of Confucius" As long as one doesn't give up, you will get there eventually." As seen in some MRT stations just above the escalators. Try spotting it =p

bluffname
01-05-2010, 03:55 PM
WAH this topic I lollo anything :confused1: don't even own a flash.

excelglsi
01-05-2010, 04:19 PM
Usually for my case I will set my SB00 to Auto TTL without the Balance... + or - 1...

cam setting..ISO 800 -1000. M mode F5.6 1/60...

Will not chnage the cam setting just Adjust the flash EV... Its simple or yes I am also using A DIY bounce card...:clap2:

salnts
01-05-2010, 04:28 PM
Usually for my case I will set my SB00 to Auto TTL without the Balance... + or - 1...

cam setting..ISO 800 -1000. M mode F5.6 1/60...

Will not chnage the cam setting just Adjust the flash EV... Its simple or yes I am also using A DIY bounce card...:clap2:

seems like you are also using M mode. hmm.. anyone uses a diffuser?


Bluffname works with available light dun need flash :clap:

salnts
01-05-2010, 04:28 PM
i wonder how to get those wow effect using flash. those i took look FLAT :(

excelglsi
01-05-2010, 05:07 PM
i wonder how to get those wow effect using flash. those i took look FLAT :(

usual flash mount on the cam hot shoe will produce fiat photo... Its best to mount on the side of the cam... So to say u need somtin like this..

http://www.tagotech.com/pic/flash-bracket-2.jpg

salnts
01-05-2010, 05:25 PM
usual flash mount on the cam hot shoe will produce fiat photo... Its best to mount on the side of the cam... So to say u need somtin like this..

http://www.tagotech.com/pic/flash-bracket-2.jpg

ooh flash bracket.. hmmm if we can trigger wirelessly i wonder ok or not. maybe use a cord :P

excelglsi
01-05-2010, 06:51 PM
ooh flash bracket.. hmmm if we can trigger wirelessly i wonder ok or not. maybe use a cord :P

can use wireless or cord also can...:coolnod:

bluffname
01-05-2010, 06:53 PM
Bluffname works with available light dun need flash :clap:

Not only dun need but dunno how to use :confused1: dun even understand flash terms like TTL (tua tua liap :confused1:) etc If you give me flash I probably set to auto, shoot raw, hope for the best and if not, pp to adjust.

excelglsi
01-05-2010, 07:08 PM
But again... common folks does not koe much about fiat photos ... All they koe is tat Sharp, Dark and subject must be in the centre...haha :cheer:

excelglsi
01-05-2010, 07:08 PM
Not only dun need but dunno how to use :confused1: dun even understand flash terms like TTL (tua tua liap :confused1:) etc If you give me flash I probably set to auto, shoot raw, hope for the best and if not, pp to adjust.

haha... I also shoot Auto... Most of the function I also..:confused1::confused1:

madmacs
01-05-2010, 08:54 PM
S5 Pro - ISO 400-1600, M, 1/60, f/2.8-8.0
SB800/SB900 bounce flash with or without card, FEC +1.0

salnts
01-05-2010, 09:34 PM
S5 Pro - ISO 400-1600, M, 1/60, f/2.8-8.0
SB800/SB900 bounce flash with or without card, FEC +1.0

oOoo so yours is auto set the range or manual?

madmacs
01-05-2010, 11:32 PM
oOoo so yours is auto set the range or manual?

i left the flash at TTL BL FP.

KopiOkaya
02-05-2010, 12:55 AM
I hardly use flash nowadays (even though I own both the SB900 and SB800). If I do need to use one (or two), I will use my 800W Jinbei strobes for POWER and almost-instant recycling time.

madmacs
02-05-2010, 03:21 PM
I hardly use flash nowadays (even though I own both the SB900 and SB800). If I do need to use one (or two), I will use my 800W Jinbei strobes for POWER and almost-instant recycling time.

can lah. but lugging the 800w jinbei strobe while moving between dinner tables not very good idea leh. :p

salnts
02-05-2010, 03:38 PM
can lah. but lugging the 800w jinbei strobe while moving between dinner tables not very good idea leh. :p

:grin: ya loh.. maybe can hire kopiOkaya as assitant to carry strobes hehe

excelglsi
02-05-2010, 03:50 PM
:grin: ya loh.. maybe can hire kopiOkaya as assitant to carry strobes hehe

Wow.. asking GM to carry ur strobes... U koe how much he charges per hrs?? :knock1:

salnts
02-05-2010, 04:07 PM
Wow.. asking GM to carry ur strobes... U koe how much he charges per hrs?? :knock1:

one yakun kopio O kaya loh :P

KopiOkaya
03-05-2010, 07:51 AM
one yakun kopio O kaya loh :P

Fat hope!!! I used to charge my wedding clients USD$2,500 to USD$5,000 for half-day. Divide that by 6 hours and you will figure.

KopiOkaya
03-05-2010, 07:55 AM
can lah. but lugging the 800w jinbei strobe while moving between dinner tables not very good idea leh. :p

I just flood the entire dining area with flashlight can liao. :thumbsup:

By the way, my last wedding and event shoot was in 2007 and I don't consider doing any more of such shoots. Now, I am focusing my attention on Fujifilm F.U.N. and mentoring members.