Photographer's Right

[littlegenie]

This looks quite an interesting topic.

1) You are in a private area but is open to public (due to restuarants/pubs). You are taking pictures for personal use. You do not have a permit.
You are taking pictures of the area inside the private area.

2) You are in a private area but is open to public (restuarants/pubs). You are taking pictures for personal use. You do not have a permit.
You are taking pictures of a model (you just need that atmosphere of that area).

3) You are standing in a public area taking pictures of a private building for personal use. You do not have a permit.

4) You are standing in a public area taking pictures of a model with that private building as background for personal use. You do not have a permit.

5) You are in a private area but is open to public (due to restuarants/pubs). You are taking pictures for personal use. You do not have a permit.
You are taking pictures outside the private area. (you are not taking any pictures of the private area, maybe just to seek shelter or a higher ground for your composition needs.).

@ some point of time, the security comes and chase you away, demands you to delete the pictures, confiscate your camera or call the police.

What rights do the security have or you have?

[student]

This is my limited understanding of the issues.

This looks quite an interesting topic.

1) You are in a private area but is open to public (due to restuarants/pubs). You are taking pictures for personal use. You do not have a permit.
You are taking pictures of the area inside the private area.

2) You are in a private area but is open to public (restuarants/pubs). You are taking pictures for personal use. You do not have a permit.
You are taking pictures of a model (you just need that atmosphere of that area).

For these scenarios, you do not have any rights at all. Any permission given to you is at the sufference of the proprietor. You need to get permission to photograph there.

3) You are standing in a public area taking pictures of a private building for personal use. You do not have a permit.

4) You are standing in a public area taking pictures of a model with that private building as background for personal use. You do not have a permit.


You do not need permission to make these photographs.

BTW, you kept stressing the word "Personal Use".

How is anyone to know that you are taking photographs for "personal use" only? Just because you said so?

If you were the security guard, can you tell which photographer was taking pictures for his/her personal use?

[littlegenie]

Thanks for your views.

The "personal use" is just to let our the people here reply the questions with a "personal use" mindset.

Only the photographer himself/herself knows exactly whether its for his/her personal use or paid.

If you are paid to shoot and and you shot without permit, that will be another story.

My question is more of whether the security when he demands you to delete the pictures, confiscate your camera, is he correct/allowed or not?

[pigs_can_fly]

In my opinion, there should not be any issue taking any pictures of anything that public can access. However, if there are signs that says "Photography is not allowed", you should strictly follow it.

If you have intention to publish the pictures for commercial purposes, the following will be required:

1. Model Releases (if the face of the person that you have shot can be recognised).

2. Property Releases (if the building, interior belongs to a private entity).

I may be wrong. But this is what applies for Stock Images.

[student]

My question is more of whether the security when he demands you to delete the pictures, confiscate your camera, is he correct/allowed or not?

You have no "rights" to even photograph in the first two scenarios. The security have every right to ask you to delete the photos etc

In the latter two scenarios, you can stand your grounds.

[madmacs]

my opinion...

if you are in a public area, then the security does not have any right to make you delete the photos.

however if you are within a private establishment, you should seek permission from the owner/management. security probably has the right to request you to delete the photos taken on their premises. i doubt they have the right to confiscate your property.